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« on: September 23, 2013, 06:01:30 AM »

Violence last night in PP - peaceful protesters and journalists injured.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/thugs-police-attack-protesters-and-journalists


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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2013, 07:49:17 AM »

Cowardly bastards  :wall:
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2013, 06:40:59 PM »

In any country, at any given moment in time when the police standby and allow "thugs" to operate against peaceful demonstrators, as history will verify, the seeds of descent are sown.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 06:56:48 PM »

Me thinks, just like in 2001, the police WERE the thugs.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 06:59:14 PM »

In any country, at any given moment in time when the police standby and allow "thugs" to operate against peaceful demonstrators, as history will verify, the seeds of descent are sown.

So true.
Lived in 3rd world country where the same scenario happened. There's only gonna be more trouble brewing
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 08:21:06 PM »

Friend of mine was not only tassed but got hit with one of the marbles, said it raised a nasty bump, also mentioned that many elderly were hit .

the undercover men reminds me of the men in Black in Bangkok's last riot

Seems Mao an HE live by the same creed,   "The power of the state comes out of the barrel of a gun"
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 05:41:41 AM »

people on facebook were saying yesterday that at least some of the thugs were the wat phnom guards.
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 06:29:57 AM »

"Seems Mao an HE live by the same creed,   "The power of the state comes out of the barrel of a gun""
astute observation, Richard
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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 10:33:08 AM »

if everyone stayed home and waited 5 years everything will be just fine.  I suggest stop the demonstrating, demonstrating never does anything but cause problems with the powers that be in power. 
Protests about human rights and normal civilian desires to be part of something more elite than their own state, all I can say is every country has ghettos, livin in the ghetto is part of life. 
Wear it on the sleeve and be proud to be in a ghetto.  Throw the politics in for a Black Panther Stout and keep on praying and striving for a better life.  The ghetto is all we know, the ghetto we love, in the ghetto we grow.
No I'm not Tupac, but I believe in a growing economy, the protests are uncalled for, the jobs will come, the young population will grow to know more and build a better place to live for the future of Cambodia.  They are trying too hard to change the now, there is no changing the now.
Change the future, that is the challenge for Cambodian people.  It starts with education and building networks of communication among the educated to develop a reasonable council of leadership among the various areas of government. 
It definitely does not start with Sam Rainsy.  It rather starts with that kid who asks you for a dollar out front of Happy Burger. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 12:32:26 PM »

Easy to say to wait another five years for change.  Nearly impossible for the heart of a Cambodian person who wishes for change to accept.

Montana I have heard your point said to a Cambodian who wants change now.  The instant answer is, "No."  They were/are so close, and in their hearts cannot bear to wait another five years.

I feel greatly for my Cambodian friends who are on the cusp of 'something different' in government.  The safe way might be to wait, but no guarantee that there will be change in the next election.
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 01:15:45 PM »

Many say the democratic process in Cambodia is much too flawed to ever allow for change.
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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2013, 02:29:15 PM »

So many Khmer are openly talking about how bad HE is for the country now though, the storm is coming for sure
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2013, 03:35:09 PM »

I think there are great similarities between Soeharto's Indonesia, and it's crony family and friends capitalism, and the current Cambodian situation. It's not a question of if but when a change is going to come, and how violently that change will happen.
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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 08:24:17 PM »

Easy to say to wait another five years for change.  Nearly impossible for the heart of a Cambodian person who wishes for change to accept.

Montana I have heard your point said to a Cambodian who wants change now.  The instant answer is, "No."  They were/are so close, and in their hearts cannot bear to wait another five years.

I feel greatly for my Cambodian friends who are on the cusp of 'something different' in government.  The safe way might be to wait, but no guarantee that there will be change in the next election.

Amongst those who want change, there are probably two views. One as Montana suggests above probably represented by the younger impatient generation, and the second represented by the burgeoning middle class business people and prosperous farmers who want business back on track  and who have been around for a while and who know how to be patient. The issue is how far are the impatient ones prepared to go?

A close colleague has indicated to me that the PM wants major reform to try to turn around the lack of confidence in the CPP. I'm not sure how he'll achieve that with the old cronies still hanging around. And the children of the old cronies are just as bad, maybe worse.

And the PM is not one who would step down automatically in the event of an election defeat. He's one who would try every trick in the book and then some. Assassinations - who knows???? Even though I've said before that the CNRP should bite the bullet and prepare for government in 5 years time, it's hard to actually imagine how that might be achieved against someone like Hun Sen.

Interesting times in Cambodia's history. And for those of us here over the next few years something to talk about ad nauseum.
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 06:47:38 AM »

time changes all things
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