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comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« on: July 24, 2014, 07:06:15 PM »
I don't know how many readers on Sihanoukville Forum have read the comments on the Cambodia Expat online forum about Violence in Sihanoukville and more to the point whether those that are living there agree with the sentiments (see link to the forum below).
If it is true I find it very sad because I have spent some very enjoyable times in Sihanoukville, particularly during the period 2003 to 2008. At one time I was seriously considering moving to live there from Thailand.
This thread about violence seems to suggest that it has changed in a big way.
I was also thinking about how many business places have disappeared, particularly the old pubs and the hotels along the main street.
Then I remembered about a really good pizza restaurant (made in a fire that was run by a European guy on victory Hill and I wondered if it was still open?


http://www.cambodiaexpatsonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1203



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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 08:26:44 PM »
I wouldn't say there's more crime, maybe more reporting.

That said, this whole thing recently has come from an American Embassy statement about the safety of Cambodia. This, obviously, comes from the fact that people don't report to the local police anymore, they report thefts to their Embassy.

Nice to see the Embassy putting pressure on Cambodia, and in return, Phnom Penh putting pressure on the local Sihanoukville Police.

To sum up though, I feel safer here than my home town on any drunken night. If I wasn't drunk, I wouldn't have any doubts at all.
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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2014, 12:39:40 AM »
I agree with your summation Casper. Basically, if you make an arsehole of yourself in Sihanoukville, you will be sorted out very, very, quickly (as a number of drunken backpackers have recently found out). If you come to enjoy the town, you will have a ball and most probably feel, and be, a lot safer then most other tourist destinations worldwide.



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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2014, 04:24:59 PM »
I agree with your summation Casper. Basically, if you make an arsehole of yourself in Sihanoukville, you will be sorted out very, very, quickly (as a number of drunken backpackers have recently found out). If you come to enjoy the town, you will have a ball and most probably feel, and be, a lot safer then most other tourist destinations worldwide.

So are you  saying that a non-inebriated person wandering around the Ochheuteal Beach area of Sihanoukville at night should have no concern about being mugged or attacked by the gangs  referred to on the expats online forum?



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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2014, 04:38:09 PM »
Very simple use your common sense. i have to say that I not always used it but I lived 8 years in Snooky and never got mugged or robbed. But it seems that a lot of tourist forget to put their brains in their suitcases when the go on a holiday.



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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2014, 05:49:20 PM »
If you're sober, I can't possibly see what trouble you would find in the bars of Ochheuteal.

However, riding your own moto (or as a passenger), with a laptop or purse over your shoulder makes you a target too.
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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2014, 06:44:45 PM »
Back in Europe after 3 months in snooky never felt threatened or unsafe during my time there drunk or sober. As the others said use the same basic common sense you would anyplace and your fine. Its safer than the streets of the cities here for sure.
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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2014, 11:32:45 PM »
I agree with your summation Casper. Basically, if you make an arsehole of yourself in Sihanoukville, you will be sorted out very, very, quickly (as a number of drunken backpackers have recently found out). If you come to enjoy the town, you will have a ball and most probably feel, and be, a lot safer then most other tourist destinations worldwide.

So are you  saying that a non-inebriated person wandering around the Ochheuteal Beach area of Sihanoukville at night should have no concern about being mugged or attacked by the gangs  referred to on the expats online forum?
Yep, thats exactly what I'm saying mate. Gangs? they don't exist here (yet) a few mates out causing trouble does not constitute a gang. While there may be the odd unprovoked problem, the VAST majority are caused by people making arseholes and or victims of themselves.



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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2014, 03:08:15 PM »
It seems to me that the press, and state departments particularly the western one's love to regurgitate the old scare tactics to anyone traveling outside the "Safety" of their own country's.
They give the impression that wild gangs of youths roam the beaches' and streets, with robbery and violence in mind, yes there is street crime here in Sihanoukville and many other Asian towns, but from the reports issued by these people, one would imagine that there homeland city's are paragons of safety.
I have been here several years and only had one unpleasant incident, and that was with a drunken Barang, the two key words are"common sense" which seems to lacking in many of the victims of crime here in Sihanoukville and worldwide.   

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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2014, 12:23:33 PM »
any more word on this violence stuff in Sihanoukville?  I've talked to the Russians and acquired a tank and a number of Ukrainian militant exiles and some Cubans, as well as a number of Idahoan skinhead militia groups.
We are armed and ready to invade.

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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2014, 12:36:59 PM »
The Police here are actually doing a good job. Over the last months they've arrested around 10 moto thieves and busted a 'Ice' ring (Vietnamese of course).

Regular inspections around the beach bar areas too.
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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2014, 01:12:57 PM »
As long as they keep on doing their job, I'm supporting them.  I'll tell the skinheads to head to Mexico.

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Re: comments about Violence in Sihanoukville
« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2014, 02:07:55 PM »
send the skinhead's to Thailand they have a terrible problem with umbrellas on the beaches.



 

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